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The public hearing into the crash of an American Airlines Flight 587, which crashed in New York last November 12 killing all 260 aboard and five on the ground, has degenerated into a polarized blamefest over rudder movement. There's now no argument that five full back-and-forth deflections of the A300-600's rudder (that generation of aircraft did not have fly-by-wire rudder controls) caused the tail to rip off and make the aircraft unflyable. But Airbus maintains it told American Airlines that its training on use of the rudder was faulty and that communication indicates American knew such a failure was possible. "Additional rudder use information should be provided with emphasis on the consequence of inappropriate use of rudder," Airbus said in a letter sent to American in 1997. But the airline denies Airbus ever formally warned that moving the rudder too much at high speed could cause it to come off. "Airbus says this was a perfectly fine plane and the pilot broke the aircraft," said American spokesman Bruce Hicks. "That's hogwash." There has also been discussion about whether the plane's co-pilot, Sten Molin, who was at the controls, had a propensity to overuse the rudder. Four months after the crash, the NTSB warned all airline pilots to be gentle on the pedals.
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Wed Nov 06, 2002 3:00 pm
jetmech1 Employee
Joined: Nov 05, 2002 Posts: 15
Not to defend the monkey's that fly some airplanes, but there is no way anyone should be able to throw blame on rudder failure due to the pilot's.
They should be able to throw that thing all over the place and not do damage or over stress the structure. Any one ever heard of load limiting? I dont know much about the A-300 rudder system, but if its anything like the rest of the aircraft it was doomed from the get-go to fail.
Them french are just trying to throw blame away from there piss poor design.
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Wed Nov 06, 2002 10:33 pm
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A related situation was the V-tail problems that were more related to age and airframe overstress fractures made by pilots over time. IS that a pilot problem when neither training nor design limits are able to prevent a instintive reation to flight conditions? If your car was in a clockwise spin and you turned to far in to the skid to correct but this caused the right rear tire to fall off and rolled your car, whose fault is that? ALMOST ALL air disasters are a combination of many failures and bad luck and more akin to a complex chaos theory equation than a simple event.
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are just trying to throw blame away from there piss poor design.
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